"Mazda applies 'zoom-zoom' philosophy to CX-7"

Mazda applies 'zoom-zoom' philosophy to CX-7
The all-new 2007 CX-7 crossover SUV is the first of three new vehicles
conceived specifically for the United States and Canada.
at http://www.washtimes.com/autoweekend...0418-8985r.htm

I've been really impressed lately with both Mazda in general and with what
I've read about the CX-7. If you look at the other comparable vehicles
(Acura MDX and some of the other good looking SUV's with some sporting
pretenses) I think it blows them out when you consider price. Performance
looks quite good, handling quite good, the design of the interior is as good
or better that anything and the ergonomics seem just right. Am I crazy or is
it almost $10k below what it competes with?

This isn't an endorsement of SUV's so please spare me the diatribes, I'm
simply talking about apples to apples. I'm proud of Mazda, keep it up! Even
the marketing of the new spider miata, they appear to have released just two
pics, both super high quality pics, a beautiful new paint color and the key,
they are teaser photos. Not a closed view and an open view but a teaser view
getting everyone talking, wondering what it'll look like with the top up /
down, getting the anticipation up. Very well done.

Mazdaspeed Miata? Mazda?

Mazdaspeed RX-8 is long overdue, come on Mazda, no time to rest!

Chris
99BBB


"Mike" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Mazda applies 'zoom-zoom' philosophy to CX-7
> The all-new 2007 CX-7 crossover SUV is the first of three new vehicles
> conceived specifically for the United States and Canada.
> at http://www.washtimes.com/autoweekend...0418-8985r.htm
>

Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
> I've been really impressed lately with both Mazda in general and with what
> I've read about the CX-7. If you look at the other comparable vehicles
> (Acura MDX and some of the other good looking SUV's with some sporting
> pretenses) I think it blows them out when you consider price. Performance
> looks quite good, handling quite good, the design of the interior is as good
> or better that anything and the ergonomics seem just right. Am I crazy or is
> it almost $10k below what it competes with?
>
> This isn't an endorsement of SUV's so please spare me the diatribes, I'm
> simply talking about apples to apples. I'm proud of Mazda, keep it up! Even
> the marketing of the new spider miata, they appear to have released just two
> pics, both super high quality pics, a beautiful new paint color and the key,
> they are teaser photos. Not a closed view and an open view but a teaser view
> getting everyone talking, wondering what it'll look like with the top up /
> down, getting the anticipation up. Very well done.
>
> Mazdaspeed Miata? Mazda?
>
> Mazdaspeed RX-8 is long overdue, come on Mazda, no time to rest!
>
> Chris
> 99BBB

I basically agree, and I could certainly use a vehicle like that for
many things that my miata can not do, but isn't it just a station wagon
that sits a bit higher than normal?
I don't think I would call it a SUV, or even a crossover. BMSW is my
term for it. (Big Modern Station Wagon).

Pat

You might be right on that but what are names really? Marketing devices I
guess.

Chris
99BBB

"pws" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
>> I've been really impressed lately with both Mazda in general and with
>> what I've read about the CX-7. If you look at the other comparable
>> vehicles (Acura MDX and some of the other good looking SUV's with some
>> sporting pretenses) I think it blows them out when you consider price.
>> Performance looks quite good, handling quite good, the design of the
>> interior is as good or better that anything and the ergonomics seem just
>> right. Am I crazy or is it almost $10k below what it competes with?
>>
>> This isn't an endorsement of SUV's so please spare me the diatribes, I'm
>> simply talking about apples to apples. I'm proud of Mazda, keep it up!
>> Even the marketing of the new spider miata, they appear to have released
>> just two pics, both super high quality pics, a beautiful new paint color
>> and the key, they are teaser photos. Not a closed view and an open view
>> but a teaser view getting everyone talking, wondering what it'll look
>> like with the top up / down, getting the anticipation up. Very well done.
>>
>> Mazdaspeed Miata? Mazda?
>>
>> Mazdaspeed RX-8 is long overdue, come on Mazda, no time to rest!
>>
>> Chris
>> 99BBB
>
> I basically agree, and I could certainly use a vehicle like that for many
> things that my miata can not do, but isn't it just a station wagon that
> sits a bit higher than normal?
> I don't think I would call it a SUV, or even a crossover. BMSW is my term
> for it. (Big Modern Station Wagon).
>
> Pat

Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
> You might be right on that but what are names really? Marketing devices I
> guess.
>
> Chris
> 99BBB

Very true, I doubt if it would sell as well if Mazda called it an
off-road capable station wagon.
Just look at how much of an argument it starts when people start trying
to define "sports car".

I do agree that Mazda is improving. A few years ago I would have told
people to look at Toyotas and Hondas for reliability, with the exception
of the miata from Mazda because of my first-hand experience with the
incredible reliability of the car.
Now I am looking into other Mazda cars as well for sedan or *big station
wagon* alternatives.

Pat

I bought their minivan (MPV) for my wife the first year it came out. Owned
it for 10 years and absolutely loved it. I was extremely impressed with not
only it's fit and finish but with the quality of materials used. Seat
fabrics and plastics throughout were top notch and all of the switches and
controls worked in a quality fashion. All that from a first year model of a
new type of vehicle for them.

During those years I owned it, almost all of the Mazda owners I ran into had
similar experiences. I could never figure out how Mazda's reputation lagged
behind several of the other big Japanese manufacturers.

I know they're not perfect hell, my own miata still worries me on the #4
bearing cap failure issue of which I don't think Mazda ever took the high
road on.

Chris
99BBB

"pws" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
>> You might be right on that but what are names really? Marketing devices
>> I guess.
>>
>> Chris
>> 99BBB
>
> Very true, I doubt if it would sell as well if Mazda called it an off-road
> capable station wagon.
> Just look at how much of an argument it starts when people start trying to
> define "sports car".
>
> I do agree that Mazda is improving. A few years ago I would have told
> people to look at Toyotas and Hondas for reliability, with the exception
> of the miata from Mazda because of my first-hand experience with the
> incredible reliability of the car.
> Now I am looking into other Mazda cars as well for sedan or *big station
> wagon* alternatives.
>
> Pat

Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
> I bought their minivan (MPV) for my wife the first year it came out. Owned
> it for 10 years and absolutely loved it. I was extremely impressed with not
> only it's fit and finish but with the quality of materials used. Seat
> fabrics and plastics throughout were top notch and all of the switches and
> controls worked in a quality fashion. All that from a first year model of a
> new type of vehicle for them.
>
> During those years I owned it, almost all of the Mazda owners I ran into had
> similar experiences. I could never figure out how Mazda's reputation lagged
> behind several of the other big Japanese manufacturers.
>
> I know they're not perfect hell, my own miata still worries me on the #4
> bearing cap failure issue of which I don't think Mazda ever took the high
> road on.
>
> Chris
> 99BBB

I really think that the rotary engine had a lot to do with it, even
though it was not used on many of their vehicles. Even I would look at a
3rd generation RX-7, think what a beautiful car, and then immediately
wonder what the bill would be when it came time to replace the apex seals.

From what I have heard, the 626 is a bit of a POS, but I don't have any
direct experience with it. It seems like every non-U.S. car driver I
knew that wasn't driving a miata or a SUV was in a Honda, Toyota, or
Nissan.
The ones driving the Nissans had the highest problem rate by far of the
three mentioned.

Mazda's reputation probably had a lot to do with advertising.
Honda and Toyota didn't really need it, word of mouth and Consumer
Reports was enough.
Nissan has had great advertising in the last 8 years or so, imho. I
think that Mazda's advertising sucked then and still sucks today, but
then, I hate "zoom-zoom", the song, the idea, the vinyl stickers, and
anything else connected with it.
It might actually be good advertising for Mazda, I just don't like it,
but I do like their products. ;-)

Pat

I pretty much agree on the advertising. Oh, and on the rotary being a knock
on the reputation of the company

chris
99bbb

"pws" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
>> I bought their minivan (MPV) for my wife the first year it came out.
>> Owned it for 10 years and absolutely loved it. I was extremely impressed
>> with not only it's fit and finish but with the quality of materials used.
>> Seat fabrics and plastics throughout were top notch and all of the
>> switches and controls worked in a quality fashion. All that from a first
>> year model of a new type of vehicle for them.
>>
>> During those years I owned it, almost all of the Mazda owners I ran into
>> had similar experiences. I could never figure out how Mazda's reputation
>> lagged behind several of the other big Japanese manufacturers.
>>
>> I know they're not perfect hell, my own miata still worries me on the #4
>> bearing cap failure issue of which I don't think Mazda ever took the high
>> road on.
>>
>> Chris
>> 99BBB
>
> I really think that the rotary engine had a lot to do with it, even though
> it was not used on many of their vehicles. Even I would look at a 3rd
> generation RX-7, think what a beautiful car, and then immediately wonder
> what the bill would be when it came time to replace the apex seals.
>
> From what I have heard, the 626 is a bit of a POS, but I don't have any
> direct experience with it. It seems like every non-U.S. car driver I knew
> that wasn't driving a miata or a SUV was in a Honda, Toyota, or Nissan.
> The ones driving the Nissans had the highest problem rate by far of the
> three mentioned.
>
> Mazda's reputation probably had a lot to do with advertising.
> Honda and Toyota didn't really need it, word of mouth and Consumer Reports
> was enough.
> Nissan has had great advertising in the last 8 years or so, imho. I think
> that Mazda's advertising sucked then and still sucks today, but then, I
> hate "zoom-zoom", the song, the idea, the vinyl stickers, and anything
> else connected with it.
> It might actually be good advertising for Mazda, I just don't like it, but
> I do like their products. ;-)
>
> Pat

Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
> I pretty much agree on the advertising. Oh, and on the rotary being a knock
> on the reputation of the company
>
> chris
> 99bbb

Well, screw you then, let's find something to argue about. There are far
better colors than black for a miata, what were you thinking? ;-)


Pat - NOT looking forward to the fireworks show from the front porch
this year due to *rain*, the bane of miata owners.

Well, we can't all drive RED MIATAS!
:-)

Chris
99BBB

"pws" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
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> Chris D'Agnolo wrote:
>> I pretty much agree on the advertising. Oh, and on the rotary being a
>> knock on the reputation of the company
>>
>> chris
>> 99bbb
>
> Well, screw you then, let's find something to argue about. There are far
> better colors than black for a miata, what were you thinking? ;-)
>
>
> Pat - NOT looking forward to the fireworks show from the front porch this
> year due to *rain*, the bane of miata owners.