Something broke, '89 626

Changed the oil on my '89 626 and took it for a ride, went down a dirt
road. After the road turned back to pavement, there was a snapping noise
followed by a jangling, I figured it was stones. A little bit later there
was a loud jangling. I turned around and picked up a brass colored bolt 4"
long snapped at the end.

I thought it was the new sway bar link; I had one of those break already,
but that wasn't it.

A quick check of the front suspension (in the dark) revealed nothing.
Everything looks OK.

I have no idea where this bolt came from. Any suggestions?

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:21:41 GMT, =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:


>Changed the oil on my '89 626 and took it for a ride, went down a dirt
>road. After the road turned back to pavement, there was a snapping noise
>followed by a jangling, I figured it was stones. A little bit later there
>was a loud jangling. I turned around and picked up a brass colored bolt 4"
>long snapped at the end.

>I thought it was the new sway bar link; I had one of those break already,
>but that wasn't it.

>A quick check of the front suspension (in the dark) revealed nothing.
>Everything looks OK.

>I have no idea where this bolt came from. Any suggestions?


quit spamming irrelevent newsgroups. Your 626 isn't a toyota.

Hachiroku ãƒ�ãƒ�ãƒ*ク wrote:
> Changed the oil on my '89 626 and took it for a ride, went down a dirt
> road. After the road turned back to pavement, there was a snapping noise
> followed by a jangling, I figured it was stones. A little bit later there
> was a loud jangling. I turned around and picked up a brass colored bolt 4"
> long snapped at the end.
>
> I thought it was the new sway bar link; I had one of those break already,
> but that wasn't it.
>
> A quick check of the front suspension (in the dark) revealed nothing.
> Everything looks OK.
>
> I have no idea where this bolt came from. Any suggestions?
>
>
Check the exhaust hangar bolts Hachi. A four inch bolt is pretty big for
exhaust but it could have been in a bushing or holding something that is
now hitting the exhaust that broke on the dirt road. You will have to
look underneath in the daylight, and or, with a light. Look especially
around and pull / wiggle on the exhaust system parts when its cold. The
jangling sound reminds me of pipe noise ( probably the longest pipe
because it's length will create the jangling tone )interfering with
something else, but noises, of course are a hard diagnosis on the NG.

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:35:39 +0000, AZ Nomad wrote:

> On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 02:21:41 GMT,
> =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <(E-Mail Removed)>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Changed the oil on my '89 626 and took it for a ride, went down a dirt
>>road. After the road turned back to pavement, there was a snapping noise
>>followed by a jangling, I figured it was stones. A little bit later there
>>was a loud jangling. I turned around and picked up a brass colored bolt
>>4" long snapped at the end.
>
>>I thought it was the new sway bar link; I had one of those break already,
>>but that wasn't it.
>
>>A quick check of the front suspension (in the dark) revealed nothing.
>>Everything looks OK.
>
>>I have no idea where this bolt came from. Any suggestions?
>
>
> quit spamming irrelevent newsgroups. Your 626 isn't a toyota.

Up your what, you say?

Obviously, you haven't been here too long.

BTW, Google "Hachiroku".

There are PLENTY of people here with a boatload of experience with Toyotas
and other cars, and can offer a suggestion as to where to look. A lot of
Japanese cars are engineered in a similar manner.

As opposed to you, that just spoke up offering NOTHING.

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 03:38:56 -0400, Ph@Boy wrote:

> Hachiroku ãƒ�ãƒ�ãƒ*ク wrote:
>> Changed the oil on my '89 626 and took it for a ride, went down a dirt
>> road. After the road turned back to pavement, there was a snapping noise
>> followed by a jangling, I figured it was stones. A little bit later
>> there was a loud jangling. I turned around and picked up a brass colored
>> bolt 4" long snapped at the end.
>>
>> I thought it was the new sway bar link; I had one of those break
>> already, but that wasn't it.
>>
>> A quick check of the front suspension (in the dark) revealed nothing.
>> Everything looks OK.
>>
>> I have no idea where this bolt came from. Any suggestions?
>>
>>
> Check the exhaust hangar bolts Hachi. A four inch bolt is pretty big for
> exhaust but it could have been in a bushing or holding something that is
> now hitting the exhaust that broke on the dirt road. You will have to look
> underneath in the daylight, and or, with a light. Look especially around
> and pull / wiggle on the exhaust system parts when its cold. The jangling
> sound reminds me of pipe noise ( probably the longest pipe because it's
> length will create the jangling tone )interfering with something else, but
> noises, of course are a hard diagnosis on the NG.


The jangling noise was only as the part fell off the car. It is quiet now.

After checking a Mazda OEM parts site, it looks like it might be an
alignment adjustment part. The thing is, I assume that would be on the
lower control arm, but from what I saw the bolts are there. I couldn't get
too good a look at the passenger's side.

Unfortunately, my 'paper route' is tearing the hell out of this car! I
have a Suby I want to put on-line, but can't get the ball joint out! Once
I get that going (or buy another one...one of my customers has a '97 for
$200; 300,000 miles!!! but I think the engine and I know the trans have
been replaced...this will be #6!!) I want to 'retire' the Mazda to use for
my job as a Dell Factory rep for the winter where it will see 99% paved
roads. I'm using the Scion for that now, as well as the Supra when the
weather is like it has been this week!

"Hachiroku ????" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
news:V__Ii.40$TH2.28@trndny06...
> Changed the oil on my '89 626 and took it for a ride, went down a dirt
> road. After the road turned back to pavement, there was a snapping noise
> followed by a jangling, I figured it was stones. A little bit later there
> was a loud jangling. I turned around and picked up a brass colored bolt 4"
> long snapped at the end.
>
> I thought it was the new sway bar link; I had one of those break already,
> but that wasn't it.
>
> A quick check of the front suspension (in the dark) revealed nothing.
> Everything looks OK.
>
> I have no idea where this bolt came from. Any suggestions?
>
Brass colored bolts are not that common on cars. Check to see if the bolts
that hold the radiator are in place. I suspect that it was a random bolt
that you kicked up.
--

Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 08:52:18 -0500, Ray O wrote:

>
> "Hachiroku ????" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote in message
> news:V__Ii.40$TH2.28@trndny06...
>> Changed the oil on my '89 626 and took it for a ride, went down a dirt
>> road. After the road turned back to pavement, there was a snapping noise
>> followed by a jangling, I figured it was stones. A little bit later
>> there was a loud jangling. I turned around and picked up a brass colored
>> bolt 4" long snapped at the end.
>>
>> I thought it was the new sway bar link; I had one of those break
>> already, but that wasn't it.
>>
>> A quick check of the front suspension (in the dark) revealed nothing.
>> Everything looks OK.
>>
>> I have no idea where this bolt came from. Any suggestions?
>>
> Brass colored bolts are not that common on cars. Check to see if the
> bolts that hold the radiator are in place. I suspect that it was a random
> bolt that you kicked up.


Geeze, Ray, I wish!

The brass colored ones on this car are used in the suspension. I think it
might be an alignment adjustment. On Toys these are brass colored also.

It was a matter of about a minute between the time I heard the POP! and
when the bolt fell out. There was a pop, something hitting the bottom of
the car; I took a corner (thinking it was stones...) and then about 100 ft
further the bolt fell out.

I *WISH* it had been something else!

> Changed the oil on my '89 626 and took it for a ride, went down a dirt
> road. After the road turned back to pavement, there was a snapping noise
> followed by a jangling, I figured it was stones. A little bit later there
> was a loud jangling. I turned around and picked up a brass colored bolt 4"
> long snapped at the end.

What does "brass colored" mean? Is it brass-colored all the way through, or
is it just brass-colored on the outside. What does the break look like?

If it's actually brass, it's not anything structural. If it's cadmium plated,
it's probably not off your car at all.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

(E-Mail Removed) (Scott Dorsey) wrote in
news:fd3mpn$9tt$(E-Mail Removed):

>> Changed the oil on my '89 626 and took it for a ride, went down a
>> dirt road. After the road turned back to pavement, there was a
>> snapping noise followed by a jangling, I figured it was stones. A
>> little bit later there was a loud jangling. I turned around and
>> picked up a brass colored bolt 4" long snapped at the end.
>
> What does "brass colored" mean? Is it brass-colored all the way
> through, or is it just brass-colored on the outside. What does the
> break look like?
>
> If it's actually brass, it's not anything structural. If it's cadmium
> plated, it's probably not off your car at all.
> --scott



I suspect the "brass" may be yellow zinc dichromate wash.

Yellow dichromate is a common anti-corrosion plating applied to many auto
parts, including bolts and nuts.


--
Tegger

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 19:09:12 +0000, Tegger wrote:

> (E-Mail Removed) (Scott Dorsey) wrote in
> news:fd3mpn$9tt$(E-Mail Removed):
>
>>> Changed the oil on my '89 626 and took it for a ride, went down a dirt
>>> road. After the road turned back to pavement, there was a snapping
>>> noise followed by a jangling, I figured it was stones. A little bit
>>> later there was a loud jangling. I turned around and picked up a brass
>>> colored bolt 4" long snapped at the end.
>>
>> What does "brass colored" mean? Is it brass-colored all the way
>> through, or is it just brass-colored on the outside. What does the
>> break look like?
>>
>> If it's actually brass, it's not anything structural. If it's cadmium
>> plated, it's probably not off your car at all. --scott
>
>
>
> I suspect the "brass" may be yellow zinc dichromate wash.
>
> Yellow dichromate is a common anti-corrosion plating applied to many auto
> parts, including bolts and nuts.


By golly, I believe you are correct (as you are about 99% of the time...)

I said 'brass colored' because it was the best description. Thanks for the
Tech info!