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another nogn
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      11-06-2008
I am considering a purchase of this vehicle - any experiences good or bad?
Not sure which engine yet but it will be automatic.


 
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Jeffrey Kaplan
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      11-10-2008
Previously on rec.autos.makers.mazda, another nogn said:

> I am considering a purchase of this vehicle - any experiences good or bad?


Don't. The '09 is a completely new car that just happens to be named
the same as last year's. I thought that by buying a Japanese make car,
I would not have to worry about the first-model-year problems, but I
was wrong.

I have an original production run '03 6s. Not only the first year of
the car model, but from the first batch of production - I bought in
December of '02. A listed accessory turned out to not fit, there were
almost a dozen official recall notices on it in the first two years for
various issues ranging from cosmetic to reliability to safety. Some
they sent out official notices, some they did silently as the cars came
in for service. One of the silent items was to reprogram the engine
management to "reduce emissions". It also intentionally dropped the
horsepower from the stated 220 to probably 210 or 205.

In my second year of ownership, a hairline crack developed in the
radiator. It happened in such a way that it only leaked when cold.

The fan control module (for the fan in the radiator) has been replaced
four times. The first time was due to a recall notice, and that
replacement was a dud out of the box. Then two more, supposedly
new/redesigned, failed within 18 months of the original recall notice.

If you want a Mazda6, I'd recommend either an '08 leftover or wait a
year until the '10s are out and get one of those. But IMO you should
never willingly buy a first-model-year.

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      11-11-2008
In article <Tb-dnVNxs-(E-Mail Removed)>,
"another nogn" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:

> I am considering a purchase of this vehicle - any experiences good or bad?
> Not sure which engine yet but it will be automatic.


For one thing, the model with the V6 has an engine from right off the
FORD assembly line... Even has Ford stickers all over it. Maybe it's an
okay engine, but if I'm buying Japanese, I want their design through and
through...

Guess I'll be driving my '99 MAZDA 626 LX-V6 (5 SPD MANUAL) for a few
more years yet! Oh, and it's been the most reliable car that I've ever
owned!
 
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Jeffrey Kaplan
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      11-11-2008
Previously on rec.autos.makers.mazda, Anonymous said:

> > I am considering a purchase of this vehicle - any experiences good or bad?
> > Not sure which engine yet but it will be automatic.

>
> For one thing, the model with the V6 has an engine from right off the
> FORD assembly line... Even has Ford stickers all over it. Maybe it's an
> okay engine, but if I'm buying Japanese, I want their design through and
> through...


Mazda is at least partly owned by Ford, and the Mazda6 is an American
designed and American (well, North America anyway) built vehicle.

> Guess I'll be driving my '99 MAZDA 626 LX-V6 (5 SPD MANUAL) for a few
> more years yet! Oh, and it's been the most reliable car that I've ever
> owned!


I miss my '00 Protege EX. Only reason I traded it was because it was
as stickshift and my left knee gave out on me.

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James
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      11-11-2008
On Tue, 11 Nov 2008 05:43:40 GMT, Anonymous <(E-Mail Removed)>
wrote:

>In article <Tb-dnVNxs-(E-Mail Removed)>,
> "another nogn" <(E-Mail Removed)> wrote:
>
>> I am considering a purchase of this vehicle - any experiences good or bad?
>> Not sure which engine yet but it will be automatic.

>
>For one thing, the model with the V6 has an engine from right off the
>FORD assembly line... Even has Ford stickers all over it. Maybe it's an
>okay engine, but if I'm buying Japanese, I want their design through and
>through...
>
>Guess I'll be driving my '99 MAZDA 626 LX-V6 (5 SPD MANUAL) for a few
>more years yet! Oh, and it's been the most reliable car that I've ever
>owned!


FWIW, I had a Ford Probe GT whose Mazda-built V6 suffered from oil
leaks, among other problems. Didn't stop me from loving the car but
NOTHING made by man (no matter the nationality) will ever be perfect.

 
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